Final Fantasy VIII: Legend of the Silver Lion, And it's 2010~ Options

[SorceressKyrsty]

An RMVX game by SorceressKyrsty

CONTENTS
Prologue
Goals
Characters
Systems
Planned Systems
Team
Recruitment

~Prologue~
It's been a nearly year since Squall and his comrades defeated the Sorceress Ultimecia, and prevented the world from falling into time compression- place where only Ultimecia could exist. The group's scattered all over the world, the peace between continents allowing a lapse in SeeD duties...
Squall Leonhart, the 'leader', is currently in Winhill on a personal matter, while his girlfriend Rinoa Heartilly is in Deling City on a similar expedition.
Squall decides to remain in Winhill that night, and that's when the trouble begins...
Upon waking the next morning, he discovers that a few townspeople have been slaughtered- and the killer has left Squall a note, telling him to head back to Balamb Garden. And so begins a wild goose chase to catch a killer...

-FF8:LOTSL's Goal-
This game is set apart by one, apparent difference to most Final Fantasies- no one is trying to destroy the world. This game is intended to be a very personal and in-depth game, and was from the very beginning back in May 2008. The questions plaguing Final Fantasy VIII fans will be answered, including 'Who is Ultimecia?' and her origins, as well as a few other loopholes.
However, there are final boss battles, but these are, yet again, strictly personal, though there is more to it than that. Final Fantasy VIII: Legend of the Silver Lion is heavily narrative orientated, but has a good emphasis on strategy and battles as well.

-Oi! Kyrsty! Get on with the game details already!
Heh, sorry. Moving on.



~Characters~


Squall Leonhart
Age: 18
Eye:Dark Blue
Hair: Brown
Height: 5'10/ 177cm
Weapon: Lionheart/Grieve Edge
Limit: Renzokuken
The enigmatic and cold protagonist of our story, Squall has a rather cruel streak and a habit of being too blunt with the truth. Though his relationship with Rinoa is steady and strong, Squall wanted to embark on a personal journey alone. He has a difficult time expressing his emotions and hates relying on others and bearing others burdens. He can seem very introverted and detached, but he has a fear of losing those he cares about.
Squall also has another phobia/quirk- he has an intense fear of being spoken about in past tense. The idea of it makes him cringe.

Rinoa Heartilly
Age: 18
Eye: Brown
Hair: Black
Height: 5'3
Weapon: Shooting Star
Limit: Angel Wing and/or Combine with Angelo
Rinoa was once the "princess" of a resistance faction in Timber called the "Forest Owls". She met Squall after her group hired SeeD to confront the president. She's currently in Deling City, and though she said she was trying to patch things up with her father, she's really trying to convince the new Galbadian president to withdraw from Timber. She's open and honest with her feelings, making her difficult to be around at times, but she's also very caring and kind. She's the only one 'allowed' to tell Squall to express his feelings with out getting told to butt out.


Zell Dincht
Age: 18
Eye: Blue
Hair: Blonde
Height: 5'6
Weapon: Ehrgeiz
Limit: Duel
Zell, at 18 years old, still can't let go of his knack to "do now, think later". However his honesty and contribution to discussions is helpful at times; however his occasional loud mouth can get him and his friends in trouble. He, while exploring Esthar with Selphie, found Grieve Edge for Squall. He's determined and cares deeply for his friends and his mum, prepared to fight to protect them. He can be rather violent and thoughtless with the way he behaves but it's just his nature.

Selphie Tilmitt
Age: 18
Eye: Green
Hair: Brown
Height: 5'3
Weapon: Strange Vision
Limit: Slot
With a bouncy personality and care-free attitude, Selphie sticks out from the group like a sore thumb. However, everyone enjoys having her around- she can turn a serious situation into a laugh-fest in moments. She's very interested in music and piloting, having taken up a piloting course 5 months ago (and is doing very well). She and Irvine have a stable relationship but it can erupt when Irvine "reverts" to his old ways and lays his charms on other girls. Selphie can come out with odd remarks totally unsuited to the situation at times ("Everybody! Peace and Love!" -_-), but she often releases tense moments this way. She's determined and the first to suggest possible plans to do things (though they occasional can be a little silly). Selphie always loved the eerie, high-tech city of Esthar, and so, dragging Zell along as her escort since Irvine was 'busy', she sets out to explore and discover the wondrous city where 'Sir' Laguna is president.

Quistis Trepe
Age: 18
Eye: Blue
Hair: Blonde
Height: 5'6
Weapon: Save the Queen
Limit: Blue Magic
Quistis Trepe is a quite calm and collected young woman, however she becomes frustrated easily and gets depressed over small things. Normally the only one to keep her head in tense situations most of the group look to her for advice when confronting large problems (except for Squall, of course). However, Quistis can sometimes be a little obsessive and proud, sometimes bordering on ignorance. Quistis remained in Balamb to oversee the SeeD and cadets with the help of her long time friend, Xu.

Irvine Kinneas
Age: 17
Eye: Purply-blue
Hair: Brown
Height: 6'0
Weapon: Exeter
Limit: Shot
Irvine can be very uncaring and frivolous at times, but he cares deeply for Selphie and all of his other friends. A talented sharp-shooter, he gets the jitters when everything goes down to him. He was the only one to remember that the group all went to the same orphange; when the cards are down, Irvine is a sensitive and rather serious guy. (Explaining how Squall and Irvine somehow get along). Irvine is currently in Balamb Garden doing research over an event that occured about 5 years ago, but he refuses to reveal what.

Seifer Almasy
Age: 18 (turns 19 in 4 months)
Eye: Blue
Hair: Blonde
Height: 6'1
Weapon: A modified version of the Punishment (it's very light)
Limit: No Mercy
Seifer can often be arrogant and stuck-up upon himself (with a right) however the events seven months ago have given him a sense of self-restraint and modesty. Contrary to his acts 'bakc then', Seifer seems repentant on his behaviour. The group's convinced that Squall told him off; they both deny this whole-heartedly.
Seifer can be possesive and over-confident, and doesn't take any proper notice of his surroundings or the people around him until he's head-deep in the quicksand. He's also very driven and focused, and when he gets a goal or dream in life he pursues it until the very end (or he until he gets a good slap in the face reminder of reality)

Fujin
Age: 18
Eye: Red
Hair: Silver
Height: 5'8
Weapon: Shooting Star
Limit: Sai
Fujin is a young woman who follows Seifer as both a leader and a friend. Contrary to her short, sharp manner of speech, Fujin cares deeply for both Raijin and Seifer, and has her own concerns and fears. She refuses to reveal how she lost her eye, however many suspect that her father damaged it severely. Fujin is the type to be immensely logical in decisions, and often sees a solution to a problem but chooses not to reveal it. Despite only having one eye, Fujin notices more than most.

Raijin
Age: 19
Eye: Brown
Hair: Brown
Height: 6'4
Weapon: Metal Snake
Limit: Raijin Special
Raijin is a rather hot-headed person who talks before he thinks, often getting him in trouble with Fujin. However he's honest and caring, and a little nieve at times. Him and Zell enjoy sparring sessions which are often very close, and both believe the mutual 'friendship' between Squall and Seifer will eventually get shattered.

-TEMPORARY CHARACTERS-

Laguna Loire
Age: 45
Eye: Green
Hair: Brown
Height: 5'9
Weapon: Y2K-Mega
Limit: Desperado
There aren't many words in the dictionary that describe Laguna, however 'moron' maybe be one of them. Not one to think matters through, he acts upon what his heart is telling him to do. He believes the pen is mighter than the machine-gun, and his boundless energy and compassionate nature cause Squall to look upon him with a sense of distaste. As Squall's father, he's not sure how to approach him. He tries to avoid discussing Raine due to his own guilt that he left her, Squall, and Ellone on their own.

-I still think Laguna is a total moron. If you want to say 'Oh, but he didn't mean it, he was trying to save Ellone!' I see your point, but....I still think you're full of crap.

Ward Zabac
Age: 43
Eye: Blue
Hair: Blonde
Height: 7'
Weapon: Longinus
Limit: Heavy Anchor
Ward Zabac is one of Laguna's two friends. Despite his almost scary appearance, Ward has a heart of gold and is really a kind, sensitive person. He can't speak after his voice-box was damaged, however what he wants can normally be seen on his face. He's generally the first one to make a note of Laguna's errors but does not chide him for them. Ward is also the person who would give Laguna the extra push he needed when he turned into a nervous wreck.

Kiros Seagill
Age: 41
Eye: Brown
Hair: Brown
Height: 6'4
Weapon: Lethal Strike
Limit: Blood Pain
Kiros was the brainiest of the group consisting of Laguna, Ward and himself. A dedicated soldier who followed Laguna after he quit, Kiros stood by Laguna through both the hard and the low times. Normally, Kiros is the one who can see what Ward is thinking first. A logical man who follows his head rather than his heart, he and Laguna have argued more than once over conflicting opinions. Still, Laguna sees and respects his opinion, have him as an advisor along with Ward.



Alicia Ceira
Age: 16
Eye: Baby Blue
Hair: Blonde
Weapon: Daggers
Limit: Photon Blast
Alicia is a mysterious young girl who broke Seifer and his group out of D-District, ranting about how she had to save them from a terrible fate. Cheerful and outgoing, her and Selphie get along rather well, though she has a strange dislike for Rinoa. Her origins are unknown, however Quistis seems to know, and says she's from somewhere in Trabia that's almost inaccessible. Alicia has an accent that seems strange to the group. Her goal and motives are unknown, though her knowledge of Centran history is impeccable...
Alicia seems to revere and idolize Squall, who tries to be polite about it as possible, but he has a nagging feeling he's seen her somewhere before...

Lucas Miral
Age: 17
Eye: Green
Hair: Red
Weapon: I'll get back to you on that one
Limit: Protection of the Stars
Lucas is a Timber-born young man with a strong sense of justice and a burning desire to protect, especially Alicia. He seems to be on a journey with her, though they refuse to reveal their eventual destination. He seems to recall meeting your group at some point, though they don't remember him. He can seem rather stoic at times, but Lucas means well and really is a down-to-earth, decent person. He dislikes Squall for the attention he's getting from Alicia, giving the impression that he and her are romantically involved.


Non-Playables/Important characters
Xu and Nida
Members of SeeD who the group know very well. Xu is Quistis's best friend, while Nida pilots Garden whilst it is in flight.
Dr Odine
The scientist of Esthar. His part in the game isn't revealed until later.

~Systems and Features~
Animated Battles
Junction
Weapon Levels
GF's
Graphics made with Southerland's template
New map graphics for VX
Songs composed by dannyboyk2 and McTricky
Custom poses
Zell has a goatee. DEAL WITH IT >=[.




Team~
Me.

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This post has been edited by SorceressKyrsty: Jan 19 2010, 12:32 AM

[Zillas]

o.o any demo? im a huge ff8 fan, and i like how this sounds so contact me or something if you have any demo or something, this is awesome!


Email: ZillasElite@Gmail (Or yahoo)

This post has been edited by Zillas: May 27 2008, 12:11 PM

[SorceressKyrsty]

No demo yet because I've still got to sprite everything. Battlers, tilesets, walking sprites... I'm currently the only one working on this project, and I'm not using the RTP so I'm practically just making this more difficult for myself. But I want to do this the best I can; I think FF8 deserves it (especially since it was completely forgotten next to its predessecor).
But hopefully within the next month or two I'll have at least one screenshot...

[Slayne]

Ok so I just read your characters bios, and please for the love of whatever go you may or may not believe in please... PLEASE do not give ANY of your characters weapons with ANY resemblance to Cloud's from Final Fantasy 7, it just completely makes my stomach turn upside down to see something from FF7 (poop) in FF8 (amazing =))

[SorceressKyrsty]

Changed his weapon. Now it follows the general "genre" of those particular characters.
When I get home I'll add Nida and Xu, since I'm at school I'm kind of busy... (lol)

[Zillas]

kay cool :) but if you ever do get a demo rdy send it to me first! XD

[SorceressKyrsty]

Added Zell's Battler. I'm going to start Xu next since I feel like spriting some new costumes :).
Just as I need to go to bed, too!

[vikirosen]

I'm going to play the devil's advocate here, since I an antifangamist and also because I want to talk about what I think are creative flaws in this project. Note that this is a personal opinion:

"Selphie says..."
S: Zell, hurry up! We have to get Squall's birthday present!
Z: It's not that bigger deal!
S: Fine, have Squall cut off your balls.
Z: I...uh... ok, ok, I'm COMING!!
Uh... yeah. Squall's got a violent mind in this one.

I remember being very excited about seeing Cloud acting selfish in Advent Children, as well as meeting a more mature and responsible Tifa and so on. Yes, characters change in time, however, all this change must have well defined causes. As such, an already schizofrenic Cloud can easily be imagined in his dark state in Advent Children, especially after contacting the disease. However, it is hard for me to imagine Squall, who is an emo to begin with, becoming a badass character in such short time without explanation. And if he is really that badass, why does he celebrate his birthday with the rest of the crew? By contrast, Cloud chooses to isolate himself, which is a natural reaction of those who suffer from badassness. Also, I could never imagine Selphie talking like that. She is a typical moe character and those are just simply out-of-character words. A dark setting doesn't mean twisting the character. Are you making a sequal, or a remake? I believe Advent Children had an overall darker atmosphere than the game, however, Yuffie for example still retains her tomboyish cuteness.

This story more reflects how my friends and I speak. We're fourteen, so I dunno if 18 year olds speak like this >_<.

If you want to make a game in which the characters speak like you or your friends, make an original game with characters modelled after you or your friends, don't use already existing characters as an excuse to transport yourself in the game. A fan games most precious asset is its ability to retain the original setting, mood, characters etc.

Brand new characters! (Artwork is by me and exclusive to anything I make, since both these characters appear in another story of mine that feature a version of this story modified for that story; in fact, it's that story that's been modified to make this one. This one came second

I have seen very few fanfiction material (be it games, novels or whatever) which does not introduce new characters. I agree, since even Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus had new characters. However, for us, who are not the original creators of the game, it is quite hard to maintain the existing characters as they were, much less be able to introduce new characters to fit the scene.

As a sidenote...

As a sidenote, I would like to make a comparison with Neon Genesis Evangelion (I'm not sure how familiar you are with it), which was an anime that attracted a huge fan base and, of course, a huge amount of fanfiction. It just so happened, that many people of Hispanic origin wrote such material and in each and every one of those which I encountered, there was a new character of Hispanic origin... No comment. However, for those of you interested, I've encountered a very professional work of fanfiction, entitled Eva-R. If I didn't know it was fanfiction, I would have believed its the original author's work.I eagerly recommend to any hardcore fan. The official site is here.

I hope I did not offend you with my criticism. I see that you are very eager in undertaking this project, and I commend you for that, however I'm not certain you are aware of the huge burden you are actually undertaking. I wish you luck with your project, and I will certainly give you another feedback after playing the demo (and hopefully my suppositions will be proven invalid).

[GoldenShadow]

Eye:Dark Blue/Grey on occasions

Both Squall and Zell often look to Irvine for advice when they have girl problems.

Squall would never ask for advice, every FFVIII player knows this. :)

(they have identical scars)

Why does Kirsti have this scar? A little bit background info would be helpful, right now it's sounding more
like a Squall rip-off to try and balance him in the game with a counter character.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not being or trying to be the jackass here and violate your right to express your
fanism on FF8 (I'm a huge fan myself), but at least try not to break the original atmosphere to it when
you are continuing the story when it ended in FF8. Fangames tend to fail alot when attempting to "continue" an
already finished story.

Brand new characters! (Artwork is by me and exclusive to anything I make, since both these characters appear in another story of mine that feature a version of this story modified for that story; in fact, it's that story that's been modified to make this one. This one came second eusa_whistle.gif

FF8 fangame deserves a recycled story? Oh my goodness. :O

Well, this is about enough from me for today... I'm a fan of this game as it was my very first Final Fantasy ever played and cleared.

Good luck on your project!

[Slayne]

Though I don't agree with the fact that vikirosen compared FFVIII and FFVII: Advent Childen, he makes very valuable points. You should read everything he says and take it into consideration.

[SorceressKyrsty]

The eye colours are storyline-related. Squall's eyes are often referred to as grey in many fanfictions, but the "grey" eyes occur on several "occasions", like I said. His eyes change colour depending on a certain circumstance.

On his personality, the reason that, for once, he asks for advice is that he actually tried to figure it out by himself and failed dismally. Girls aren't Squall's strong point.
Also, Squall's been trying to open up a bit lately with his feelings, because of Rinoa. This has...shortened his fuse a bit in this one. He always had a bad temper, however (completely went off at Cid that time), and Selphie says that because she's been accused of being too "immature". She's over exaggerrating by quite a bit, Squall would just get very annoyed with him.
o.o Badass...? That's more of the original fanfiction in this game. He's more confused and angry.
(As a sidenote, that was just a spur of the moment line of text, I didn't even think about

Kirsti's character is story-line related; I can't really reveal it in this thread. If you would like me to PM the details of her character to you (but I would be giving away the story) feel free to post a message on here or PM me.

Recycled story? Guess it kind of is. The main points of the initial side story in that fanfiction have been taking and added to so it fits with FF8 without adding a different games characters or plotlines. (aka. the initially fanfiction had other games in it, like KH for example).

[Slayne]

I envy the fact that you are making a Final Fantasy 8 fan game, but if you don't stick to the characters main personality then it just wouldn't be "them". Lets take KH and KH2 for example, compare to how he was in the first one and then in the second, he was still goofy ol' Sora but a little bit matured. If you want to give them more maturity that's fine, but you can't change their whole personality and still expect them to be the same person.

Not sure if I worded that correctly but I hope you get my point.

[Celestial Arrow]

I was actually thinking of a Final Fantasy VIII fangame myself and was browsing around when I found this paticular post. You seem to have the start of a good idea going. I can sprite a bit, and draw, so if you need any help, feel free to ask and I will see what I can do.

[SorceressKyrsty]

I'm going to try to stick to the character's personality as well as I can. If I write something and I'm not sure if it sounds like them, I'll ask either this thread or maybe PM someone (if anyone still has a copy of FF8 handy and would like to check there personalities properly, please offer). I've been writing that fanfiction for over 2 years now, and there versions from that story are kind of how I perceive the characters these days. eg. Selphie in the story is a very good mechanic and quite sciency but that was never mentioned in the game)
Celestial Arrow, can I see some of your sprite work? I really want this game to be the best it can be, but I'm really overloaded right now, especially with walking sprites(cna't decide between Southerland's Template or the K-Sama template) and tilesets. I actually enjoy making SV characters so there's no problem there lol.
Thanks for offering, btw!

EDIT: I finally found something to help me with mapping. It's a demo of FF8 on PC, it goes for around 30mins + depending on how much you Draw. You get a cutscene, fights, and a boss battle, as well as a change of clothes. But the GF's you have are really weird...(they made sure you couldn't junction magic to HP in this one.)
If anyone wants a full view of the battle system, draw system, menu system and junction system, check out this demo.
(I'm sorry, I have to link to it)
http://software.filefront.com/Final+Fantas...nformation.html

This post has been edited by SorceressKyrsty: May 30 2008, 07:48 AM

[Zillas]

I know one way to get ff8 and play it *Cough*Illegal*Cough* its called Emulator + Iso......i say no more, if you wish to find out more info from me email me at ZillasElite@Gmail.com but if you dont wanna do anything illegal :) Then ill try to get you Screenshots *I have the legal version so im allowed to download the game!!!!!!!!* i do nothing illegal :)

[GoldenShadow]

I know one way to get ff8 and play it *Cough*Illegal*Cough* its called Emulator + Iso......i say no more, if you wish to find out more info from me email me at ZillasElite@Gmail.com but if you dont wanna do anything illegal :) Then ill try to get you Screenshots *I have the legal version so im allowed to download the game!!!!!!!!* i do nothing illegal :)

And on a sidenote here, Google is your friend. If you ask Google the right question, the mastermind will undoubtly reward you with what you seek. :D

PS: It's not very smart to post an emailaddress on a forum. xD Spambots, anyone?

[SorceressKyrsty]

Hey, Zillas- If you press print screen, even while running a fullscreen game, then minimise it and go to Paint and press "paste" you'll have a screenshot of the game lol. That's how I put the screenshots of the menu etc. in the mock-up section (which is now mock-ups and screenshots).
EDIT: I made a userbar just incase anyone feels like supporting FFVIII-2: L.O.T.S. I'm still recruiting people, so the more people that look on this thread, the likelier it is that someone will offer their help.
Here's what you need to copy and paste into your signature:

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[Zillas]

ah i see, well i have my own project im working on...so i cant help. heh. (but if i ever get bored or decide to take a break from my project i'll help you out)

[McTricky]

I've been watching this topic ever since it was first posted on here. Now:

I don't want this project to fail. You're making a fan-based sequel to FFVII. Don't make the same mistakes FFX-2 did. FF8 was a great and epic game, and I wanna see that same epic-ness in this on a much larger scale.

(Inner McTricky: Why not be a part of it?
McTricky: Not a bad idea....)

As for the musician rle, I'm interested but unforunately my time at the music studio is VERY limited. I'll probably be able to make a battle theme and boss theme for ya, if you interested, just PM me.

[Celestial Arrow]

Here you go. I actually have other sprites avalible, but I wanted to specially do this one to show off. It was surprisingly easy to edit.